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thetexan - Posted - 07/15/2009: 10:24:29
Wait tillI actually write my book......
Kenneth Logsdon - Posted - 07/15/2009: 12:20:43
Be sure to include the Blind men and the Elephant.. in it! Tab can represent the trunk... Theres a whole lot more to be seen! 
KL
not fast enough - Posted - 07/16/2009: 03:16:33
Tab is just a crutch.
just a bit of levity.
Banjo players trail mix. 1 part M+M''s, 1 part peanut M+M''s and 1 part Kraft Caramels.
555Glenn - Posted - 07/16/2009: 10:59:28
Thanks
Thats me on banjo. Before Ithe USAF moved me to Nashville, I use to close shows with Bill Monroe ,Larry Sparks and Ralph Stanly singing gospels while Gary Brewer and I backed them up with picken. Then when I moved to nashville Bill remembered me and would crash our show a few times a year in Nashville. I really liked the Old guy.
He use to say "You pick fine banjo boy"
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Heres what ive learned from reading music and tab and playing with bill Monroe and Royacuff and many more
http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...usicid=10592
Check Out www.TheBluegrassAcademy.com
Wow! Cool picture of Monroe at the Station Inn.
David Russell
www.reverbnation.com/hardlinedrive
www.georgiamountainmedia.com
Check Out www.TheBluegrassAcademy.com
Edited by - 555Glenn on 07/16/2009 11:03:46
Drivingforce - Posted - 07/16/2009: 18:59:46
I tried to teach myself by ear for a few years and developed so many bad habits. I bought a few instructional books but found it hard to make myself go through them systematically without skipping arround and dodging the difficult instruction.
I finally decided to search out the best banjo teacher I could find. I took lessons for two solid years. The best decision I have ever made. He patiently and consistantly hammered out the problem areas and put me on the road to banjo theory ,finger rolls, chord structure, and working knowledge of the fretboard. I, seriously, wanted to be the best I could be, so I practiced relentlessly. He used tab and as a beginner, loved having it, although, I was confined at jams to only what I had learned from tab. A bad feeling. I could not improvise a lick. With strictly tab, you either know a song or you don't. It was very limiting, however, It taught me to play licks properly and to become more familiar with note and roll patterns.
Wanting to move to the net level, I decided to purchase a transcriber-TR 1000, the only reasonably priced transcriber with multiple functions at the time. It quickly became the most valuable tool in my pratice regimate. I begain to learn to improvise and develop my own style. Slowng the musc down allows you to control the song and also gives you the opportunity to patiently find each note being played.
I throughly enjoy using my transcriber.
NOTE: I do not reccomend a transcriber until a good foundation.(learning by tab) of roll patterns and basic finger notation are obtained. Without a base knowledge, you will cut corners with the use of a transcriber.
I occasionally write down measures that are tricky so that the next practice session isn't about trying to remember what I had figured out the practice before. Disipline yourself to write it down, it saves valuable time.and allows aloted pratice time to be much more productive.
You will eventually have a notebook full of licks, kickoffs and endings that signify your own personal style. You will also be able to revert back to them from time to time as sometimes old licks get pushed back in the corner of our mind as new ones are being learned.
Lessons can get expensive, fortunately for me, I have been allowed to earn back my initial investment plus from teaching and playing publicly - A GOAL DEFINITELY WORTH SHOOTING FOR!
If you can't afford lessons, there are great DVD-CD BOOK INSTRUCTIONALS that are awesome for learning. I recently purchased Ron Blocks Acutab DVD, I HAVE LEARNED THINGS FROM THIS INSTRUCTIONAL THAT I'VE WANTED TO KNOW FOR QUIET SOME TIME! Dysecting licks and syncopated measures that he has played for years. CHECK IT OUT, YOU WANT BE DISAPOINTED!!!
By the way, you normally get what you pay for, some instructionals seem pricy, but contain a wealth of info that will take quiet some time to master. $50.00 for a years worth of instruction -vrs- $20.00 per week for 30 min. lessons.
To sum it up, you need a balance -
Teaching -from someone that knows theory
Tabliture -to disipline yourself to understand roll patterns and note structure
Transcribing -on a personal level to construct unumerable sound patterns and rythms in the mind that can be syncronized with the physical (muscle memory)
Practice - impliments and coordinates all of the above.
You can't learn it all...but it's alota fun tryin!
Terry
Edited by - Drivingforce on 07/16/2009 19:53:35
Rich Weill - Posted - 07/17/2009: 09:30:01
Tex, I liked your posts a lot. As I read them, I thought of all the English-speaking opera singers who memorize Italian arias by rote. I wonder how many of them could walk into a ristorante in Rome and order a pizza.
But I would like to add one point of clarification. Tabs are only "a treasure trove of hidden nuggets of banjo mastery from the minds of many great players" if either the "great players" wrote the tabs themselves -- generally, they don't -- or were transcribed by someone else accurately -- also, not a guarantee. Just something to keep in mind.
minstrelmike - Posted - 07/17/2009: 10:11:47
When I was in 10th grade down in south Florida, a family drove up to our bus stop and dropped off Jacque. They had come down for the winter from Quebec and since I spoke some French, I sort of helped get him registered at school. The mom spoke English, but not Jacque. He knew 3 English words, the only one of which I can actually type here is "marijuana."
Anyway, we had a rock band and Jacque was our singer because he knew all the words to every Grand Funk Railroad song even tho he couldn't speak any English good enough except to maybe get slapped in the face.
He didn't even have an accent when he sang!?!
Mike Moxcey Fort Collins, Colorado, USA
http://moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/index.html
thetexan - Posted - 07/17/2009: 10:34:38
Rich,
Very good point and I agree. I guess a better way of thinking of tabs is like a library of all kinds of knowledge. There is no telling what you are going to find but there is bound to be a lot available if you search and study what's available. Sometimes it will be a nice nugget sometimes not.
All the more reason to use tabs for what they are good for, then seek a full, rounded training plan.
Sorta like the breakfast cereal commercials...."Eat Lucky Charms...part of a complete breakfast!".
"Use Tabs...part of a complete learning plan!"
Edited by - thetexan on 07/17/2009 10:37:52
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