Kemo Sabe - Posted - 06/08/2009:  15:46:03

Thanks to Steve Davis for a recent post on another thread where he was talking about major shapes, major chords, 7ths and minor chords:
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Steve Davis post -
I just figure my minors and sevenths out of my major shapes.
The first group is the barre to 7th and minor
the second group is "F" position to 7th and minor
the third group is "D" position to 7th and minor

They work the same no matter what key you're in.(Where you are on the neck)

--5--8--5-----5--3---5------4--4---3-----------------------------------------
--5--5--4-----3--3---3------3--3---3-----------------------------------------
--5--5--5-----4--4---3------2--5---2-----------------------------------------
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I have copied Steve’s work and added what I think are the relative minors:
The first group is the barre to 7th and minor and then relative minor in red
the second group is "F" position to 7th and minor and then relative minor in red
the third group is "D" position to 7th and minor and then relative minor in red

--5--8--5--7-----5--3--5--5-----4--4--3--4-------------

--5--5--4--5-----3--3--3--5-----3--3--3--3--------------

--5--5--5--5-----4--4--3--4-----2--5--2--4--------------

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I have found Steve's post very useful - thanks Steve!

Phil


"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

minstrelmike - Posted - 06/09/2009:  08:12:39

Good job. Figuring out by yourself engrains it deeper than merely reading it or have someone else explain it.
The next step, or maybe just another step, is to add the 4th string and find 8 different 7th shapes.

From barre c: 5555, three of them are 5558 (which you've got), 8555 and 5355.
Note that if you remember the 8th fret is the 7th note you want, it tells you how to get the next shape's 7th chords (from the F shape)
8988 , 8-9-8-10 and 10-9-8-8

Mike Moxcey Fort Collins, Colorado, USA
http://moxcey.net/mike/minstrel/index.html

Kemo Sabe - Posted - 06/09/2009:  09:18:47

Mike

There are a number of ideas I have had on that 'tab' from Steve...

After adding the relative minors I have cranked it into Band In A Box for G, bA, A, bB, B, C, bD, D, bE, E, F, F# with all the 7ths, minors and relative minors. My wife agrees that it is not very musical in playing up and down the scales but the next time my instructor tells me to play one of those 7ths, minors or relative minor chords I will be mentally prepared - maybe even hit the chord on time.

You know, it takes time for a newbie to realize that 7ths, minors and relative minors are not so scary - they are just another chord!

Also, thank you for your suggestion - that is a great idea!

Phil

"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 06/09/2009 09:24:13

steve davis - Posted - 06/09/2009:  09:22:11

I'm glad to help in any way I can,Phil.I find chord knowledge to be the foundation of my playing.

Pool

Edited by - steve davis on 06/09/2009 09:23:14

Chumley - Posted - 06/09/2009:  21:03:55

great chart

OutlawSteph - Posted - 06/11/2009:  07:04:00

This is great. Thanks guys!