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banjoronny - Posted - 11/23/2008:  05:33:15


I am thinking about buying a Williams banjo like Kenny Ingrams. Kens banjo sounds terrific. The Williams banjo Kenny plays is the same banjo I can buy stock or is Kennys banjo specially made for him.

Ron Wells

RONLD - Posted - 11/23/2008:  06:01:31


Basicly the same i believe Ron , you could ask Kenny what strings, head tension etc. to use also. His hang-out name is timeless 1952 i think....

Job 33:4 - Fitch fan #1


Edited by - RONLD on 11/23/2008 06:02:21

SJL - Posted - 11/23/2008:  07:16:36


Ron,

I am pretty sure that Kenny's Signature Model WIlliams is almost exactly the same as the one that he plays. Same woods, ring, rim, bridge, strings, hardware etc. I think that the only difference is that Kenny has a slightly wider neck as he has very large hands.

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Arthur Hatfield - Posted - 11/23/2008:  07:21:17


Ron exactly the same as all the other Ingram models.

Arthur Hatfield
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jbalch - Posted - 11/23/2008:  07:32:05


Ron:

I have Williams Kenny Ingram #5. From what I understand, they are all made to the same specs. I think, the only non-standard component that Kenny uses is an Old REMO head.

E-mail Kenny and/or Will. They were both very helpful and responsive when I decided to order mine.

I love my banjo. It is the best sounding bluegrass instrument I've owned.






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banjoronny - Posted - 11/23/2008:  07:41:52


That's what I'm looking for. I want to make sure I'm getting the same banjo except the head, bridge or a little custom tweaking. You have to ask.

Ron Wells

PickaFive - Posted - 11/23/2008:  10:28:02


Ron,
I had the great experience of meeting Kenny Ingram at last weekend's Wickenburg, AZ Bluegrass Festival. He was nice enough to bring Rhonda and the rest of the Rage with him to the festival and indoor concerts on Friday and Saturday evenings.

Kenny played my Williams S/N 001 Kenny Ingram model banjo and his S/N 000 prototype banjo for me backstage prior to the Saturday evening concert. Kenny had played S/N 001 in June of 2007 when it was new. I was amazed at how very similar the banjos sounded. Kenny's head was a little tighter which made it a bit brighter. Kenny commented on the great job that Arthur Hatfield had done on the 001 neck which is hand shaped to Kenny's specifications. It felt just like the neck on his 000 banjo.

When Will Williams builds and sets up a banjo containing the best available parts (Burlile, Hatfield, Cox, Gill, etc.) it yields the best consistency from instrument to instrument that can be attained. While every instrument is unique, the amount of variablilty is much less.

There are quite a number of other skilled luthiers who are achieving excellent results with a mix of some of the same, and other high quality components.

There's only one Kenny Ingram though. Case closed!!!

Dick Huyett
PickaFive

RB11 Player - Posted - 11/23/2008:  17:10:15


Kenny is the nicest gentleman around. Plus he's the best picker. If Kenny endorses it he's playing it.


DJMorgan - Posted - 11/24/2008:  06:28:32


Ron, if your thinking about a Williams - Kenny Ingram Model have no fear it's a great banjo. Some of the best componetnt and some of the greatest people who have ever collaborated on a banjo and made it sound like a hoss.
Yep that KI banjo is just a right hand a few tweaks from Big K's.

Having played KI 2 for some time now, you won't be disappointed!

lethegoodtimesroll - Posted - 11/24/2008:  17:22:43


I have a question would you say Kenny likeS his banjo head "tuned to about an "A"

jbalch - Posted - 11/27/2008:  06:57:58


quote:
Originally posted by DJMorgan

... Yep that KI banjo is just a "right hand" a few tweaks from Big K's.


You did have to bring up the "right hand"...didn't you.





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DJMorgan - Posted - 11/27/2008:  15:48:09


quote:
Originally posted by jbalch

quote:
Originally posted by DJMorgan

... Yep that KI banjo is just a "right hand" a few tweaks from Big K's.


You did have to bring up the "right hand"...didn't you.

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Well, I hated to over state the obvious but Kenny's right hand is down right scary.
Taste, timing and tone, Kenny rules!


Timeless1952 - Posted - 11/30/2008:  12:25:13


Hello Ron.
I can tell you as Arthur has already stated, all the necks are the same. The one I play was the prototype. It has nothing different from all the others. Its the only banjo I've played for nearly 2 years now. I received mine in December of 2006 and recorded with it about a week later on a CD that Josh Williams hasn't released yet. It was that good from the start. It has the same neck, rim (Sullivan Old Factory Floor) and same tone ring,(Burlile). All the metal parts are the same also. This banjo was built with player in mind with the look, feel and sound. I do have an Old Remo on mine but other than that, they are all the same. I am not going to endorse any banjo and not play it myself. My way of thinking is if I didn't play it, why would anyone want one. There's way to much of that going on today. I have played several of them #1, #2 #3 #4 #7 #11 #14 #17 #18. I think Will is going to stop making them at 20 so you may be out of luck. # 19 will be ready I think in December of 08 and #20 Jan of 09. Thanks Ron for considering the Williams KI banjo.
Oh and the head tightnes is G#.
Thanks again!
K

strang - Posted - 11/30/2008:  12:39:27


quote:
Originally posted by Timeless1952

I am not going to endorse any banjo and not play it myself. My way of thinking is if I didn't play it, why would anyone want one. There's way to much of that going on today.

K


You da man, Kenny.


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Mike Casey - Posted - 11/30/2008:  13:28:44


Now that is an endorsement anyone can respect from one of the very best in the business. I appreciate that kind of integrity.

Mike Casey
and Too Big To Fail

DJMorgan - Posted - 11/30/2008:  16:56:27


quote:
Originally posted by Mike Casey

Now that is an endorsement anyone can respect from one of the very best in the business. I appreciate that kind of integrity.

Mike Casey


Well said Mike!
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If anyone is thinking about a KI Model, now is the time to pull the trigger. A very limited number of the Kenny Ingram Models are still available! So don't delay!

This banjo is made from the finest componets:
Made from a select grade mahogany, Flying Eagle Inlay pattern,
rosewood fingerboard, handmade Arthur Hatfield neck, Burlile tone ring
Steve Gill resonator, Sullivan Old Floor Factory rim, RK flange, Presto tailpiece, Bill Keith tuners,
Schaller - 5th string tuner, nickel hardware, ivoroid buttons, GHS Custom strings, TKL case

For more information please visit Will Williams website at: http://www.williamscustombanjos.com/

lethegoodtimesroll - Posted - 11/30/2008:  17:12:56


Boy I really like that...............Kenny plays the instrument he endorses...........Terry Baucom does also........Crowe does not.


Edited by - lethegoodtimesroll on 11/30/2008 17:14:31

Timeless1952 - Posted - 11/30/2008:  21:28:43


Every piece of this banjo was chosen for a reason. I felt the RK flange is as near a clone of the Pre War flange in looks and weight. The tenion hoop is even pot metal The mahogany we chose because its a very stable wood, unlike curly maple. I've have seen a lot of twisted necks in that stuff. The rim is the Sullivan Floor Rim. I don't think there is a better rim being made but time will tell. You couple that rim with the best tone ring made (The Burlile) and you have a HOT combo. There are many good tone rings being made today. I own several different ones myself While we talking tone rings let me say that Jim really Makes his own rings. He doesn't take his stuff to a foundry and get it poured. He pours and machine's his own tone rings. No one making rings today can claim this but him. The Bill Keith tuning pegs are all stainless steel inside and out. You will never ware these out!!!!!!!! The Arthur Hatfield neck & The Gill resonator can't be beat. You take all these great parts and make sure they are fitted together RIGHT, with the right setup your going to have a pretty hot banjo. When we started this whole thing that was what we wanted to do. Put the BEST parts together and see what we came up with. So thats how the prototype I play come to life. I think Jim, Arthur, Will, and myself didn't do bad.
K


Edited by - Timeless1952 on 12/01/2008 12:25:17

DJMorgan - Posted - 12/01/2008:  12:51:31


quote:
Originally posted by Timeless1952

I think Jim, Arthur, Will, and myself didn't do bad.
K



That's got to the the BHO's understatement of the year!
"Not bad", indeed!
Without your stamp of approval on this KI banjo collaboration, I would still be searching for that elusive banjo. Thank you Kenny!

banjoronny - Posted - 12/02/2008:  05:46:57


Thanks very much Ken. Your sincere support of the banjo means a lot.

Ron Wells

blugrssmom - Posted - 12/08/2008:  14:19:03


If you're thinking of getting one you better get ahold of Will ASAP as he has told me that he is only making these last two so unless he changes his mind that will be your last chance to get one "new" that is.

Raynae Redman



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