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RyanHerr - Posted - 01/25/2008:  13:58:35


I am wondering what are some people's favorite John Hartford songs, not including "Gentle on My Mind" or anything off of the famous Aero-Plain album.

(He's written so much that I'm sure there are some gems that have escaped my attention.)

One of my favorites is "Wish We Had Our Time Again."

-Ryan.

N.E.banjo - Posted - 01/25/2008:  14:10:33


I love "Run Little Rabbit"!

I also like "Missip", and "The Boys From North Carolina" (But they're both fiddle tunes)

I REAALLY like everything he did on the Civil War series.


Dan

gDGBD - Posted - 01/25/2008:  14:29:25


"My Rag", off the Morning Bugle album, is a great duet with Norman Blake on mandolin and Hartford on guitar. Hartford even sings out the chords in the middle of the song, so it's easy to play along. On the same album is "Howard Hughes Blues", a wonderful song that is also on the Steam Powered Areo Takes CD (with Vassar Clements playing some amazing fiddle).


Edited by - gDGBD on 01/25/2008 14:33:12

vrteach - Posted - 01/25/2008:  14:36:35


"Long Hot Summer Day" from the Mark Twang album sticks with me.

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estrayisland - Posted - 01/25/2008:  14:47:48


Back in the Goodle Days

donn

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Greg Earnest - Posted - 01/25/2008:  14:59:43


"Joseph's Dream". . . don't know which Hartford album it was on (or if it was) but I have him doing it on the "Walnut Valley Spring Thing" live LP from 1976.

Also, from the same album, "I Thought You Were Holding". . .

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fivestringmac - Posted - 01/25/2008:  15:03:18


"Old Washing Machine"

rwkuta - Posted - 01/25/2008:  15:27:30


"Goodle Days" as someone previous mentioned. "Presbyterian Guitar".....apologies if I mispelled it..... "I Wish We Had Our Time Agian" which I think is just Turkey in the Straw w/lyrics......."Annual Waltz"....."More Bull Fiddle Fun" and the "Fiddle Song".......I love it when he does "Lorena"........"Man of Constant Sorrow" on fiddle from the O' Brother Soundtrack.........heck I could keep going so I'll just say I love everything he did.

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Couchie - Posted - 01/25/2008:  15:47:10


Today is one of my favorites but I've only heard Jamie Hardford sing it. I assume it was written by John. A wonderful song and John was such a great musician and entertainer.


Don.

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Tyler8 - Posted - 01/25/2008:  15:53:04


I love his version of Lorena and I would have to put "Old time riverman" in my top 5 all time favorite banjo songs.

Tyler

derekanjo - Posted - 01/25/2008:  15:56:07


i wish we had our time again, isn't turkey in the straw with lyrics (turkey has its own lyrics)....but it is a tribute to joe stuart. one of my favroite tunes he did was "On Christmas Eve" from the "Heading Down Into The Mystery Below" album. actually, that whole album is hard to beat.

Derek
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Mick S - Posted - 01/25/2008:  16:00:08


"In Tall Buildings" is a bit of a personal Mantra.

Also
You can't run away from your feet.
All Fall Down (what?!! Bluegrass in 5/4- that's just crazy!)

rwkuta - Posted - 01/25/2008:  16:00:40


Thanks for the correction Derek.....I was just listening to it 2 nights ago. It made me think of Turkey in the Straw

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wss - Posted - 01/25/2008:  16:34:29


Goodle, Run little rabbit, sweet sunny south

He does my favorite version of Blackberry Blossom!

Scott


maplebridge48 - Posted - 01/25/2008:  16:44:49


Hartford's "Golden Rule Waltz" is a favorite of mine. I laughed a long time.

Red

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jojo25 - Posted - 01/25/2008:  16:51:30


Ryan,

Nice to see John's legacy thriving.

There are so many tunes of John's that I love. I'll try to limit myself to ones that have not yet been mentioned.

The All Explosion All Collision Song
Dancing in the Bathtub
Gum Tree Canoe (a Hartford cover/extension of a 19th century tune)
Cuckoo's Nest (old fiddle tune that John put words to, turning it into a love song)
Hamilton Ironworks (the entire CD!!)
I wouldn't have been there if I hadn't been here (don't know if that's title, but you all probably know what I mean)
Skipping in the Mississippi Dew
Long Hot Summer's Day (I grew up in a city on the Illinois river, so I relate to this one)
I'm Still Here (and he is!!)
Slumbering on the Cumberland

and lots more I can't think of right now


Banjonically yours

Joe

RyanHerr - Posted - 01/25/2008:  17:02:56


Thanks for all the recommendations, guys!

Regarding "Wish We Had Our Time Again" - it's basically the B section only of "Turkey in the Straw" with an extra bit tacked on at the end for the repeated line "I wish we had our time again." So, it's both similar to "Turkey in the Straw" and also different from it.

-Ryan.

frailin - Posted - 01/25/2008:  18:01:35


Gum Tree Canoe. Such a sweet love song.


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flake - Posted - 01/25/2008:  18:58:41


Golden Globe Award.


mike

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plunka5 - Posted - 01/25/2008:  19:55:37


quote:
Originally posted by flake

Golden Globe Award.
mike



Now Mike...you behave..

"so round and firm"...nevermind! I can't help it....

"gotta have em both, cause they both go together"...

I really miss John Hartford.

Thanks everyone for this thread, and the memories of the songs!!!

One of my favs...besides every song that I ever heard him do is:

The Cross-Eyed Child





my hand is out of tune...hold on a second...

alprice - Posted - 01/25/2008:  21:07:54


Tall Buildings
Let Him Go On Mama
Old John Clark (Hartford style)
On Christmas Eve
and not a lesser-known, but have you ever heard a better "Big Rock Candy Mountain"

Al

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mike gregory - Posted - 01/25/2008:  21:36:04


Irene and I got a whole lot of Hartford's albums, and to us, there's no such thing as a "lesser known" song.




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dmiller - Posted - 01/25/2008:  23:03:14


Alprice beat me to it. "Let Him Go On Mama" is a great tune!!

CLICK HERE!


Edited by - dmiller on 01/25/2008 23:04:17

derekanjo - Posted - 01/25/2008:  23:18:38


quote:
Originally posted by dmiller

Alprice beat me to it. "Let Him Go On Mama" is a great tune!!

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that top tension he's playing in that video is one of my favorites of the banjos he played. it sounded its best on the album he did with benny martin and pat burton, "slumberin on the cumberland." isn't that the banjo the he got from gruhn after the airlines broke his main one?

Derek
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fgodbey - Posted - 01/26/2008:  00:49:50


I'm partial to "Old Time River Man" -- John sang it on Nashville Now one night shortly after the death of his friend, Capt. E. A. Poe of the river boat "General Jackson" I don't know how he got through the song without choking up.

"Here I Am in Love Again" is a nice song that always makes me smile.

--Frank

Douch - Posted - 01/26/2008:  02:18:52


Granny won'tcha smoke some marijuana and leather britches.

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boyratchet - Posted - 01/26/2008:  04:51:28


All Fall Down - Is he singing about what I think he is?
I Would Not Be Here - A metaphysical meditation on the interrelatedness of all things in his own inimitable way.
You Can Do Anything - If only for this lyric: "I know a chick who wasn't nobody's fool/She wouldn't go to church and she wouldn't go to school/And then she made with a preacher in her grandma's attic/And now that poor chick is a religious fanatic."

The album he did with Vassar and Dave Holland really shows him stretching out on the banjo. Lot's of great tunes on that one. It's mostly instrumental, but I'm not sure how many of them he wrote. Loose and even a bit sloppy, and great performances by all.

Tacheles ist sagen was die sache ist.

plunka5 - Posted - 01/26/2008:  05:01:52


So many GREAT songs...

so, here's another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26NnYJln7Rg



my hand is out of tune...hold on a second...

CurtissWhite - Posted - 01/26/2008:  05:12:07


Hey Baby Wanna Boogie - Steam Powered AreoPlane album. What a stretch, out dere, man. lol

Earl's the man!!!
Frailin's 999th friend!

Ray Soulard - Posted - 01/26/2008:  06:27:43


Loved all of his music. Along with those already mentioned I also really liked: Their Gonna Tear-Down The Grand Ol' Opry, Nobody Eats at Linebaugh's Anymore, Steamboat Whistle Blues, Take Another Piece of My Heart,.... Favorites would certainly include Lorena, Annual Waltz, Where Does an Old Riverman Go..

Thor - Posted - 01/26/2008:  07:11:23


"Dusty Miller Hornpipe and Fugue in A Major for Strings, Brass, and 5-String Banjo"

"The Poor Old Prurient Interest Blues"

"Don't Leave Your Records in the Sun"


Studebaker Hawk - Posted - 01/26/2008:  09:48:45


quote:
Originally posted by derekanjo

i wish we had our time again, isn't turkey in the straw with lyrics (turkey has its own lyrics)....but it is a tribute to joe stuart. one of my favroite tunes he did was "On Christmas Eve" from the "Heading Down Into The Mystery Below" album. actually, that whole album is hard to beat.

Derek



"On Christmas Eve" gets my vote, too. And I agree, the whole "Heading Down Into The Mystery Below" album is great. I wish they'd re-issue it on CD... it's long overdue.

Your Pal,
Stu D. Baker-Hawk

pauwac - Posted - 01/26/2008:  10:12:12


You gotta love a guy who composes a banjo tune titled "Your Tax Dollars At Work."

Pauwac

Nielen - Posted - 01/26/2008:  10:37:12


"Nobody Eats at Linebaugh's Anymore" and many others off the Morning Bugle Album (both listed above). I wish I knew more of his songs. I see quite a bit on YouTube

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fivestringwomanrepeller - Posted - 01/26/2008:  15:24:26


So many, but I'd say:
Let Him Go On Mama,
Like Unto a Mockingbird,
Keep on Truckin',
6 O'clock Train, Girl with Green Eyes
Way Up on the Hill where they do the Boogie,
Steamboat Whistle Blues,
In Tall Buildings
Where Does an Old Time River Man Go,
Where the Old Red River Flows,
his version of Dig a Hole in the Meadow

Renofan - Posted - 01/26/2008:  17:05:37


My favorite would be "Corn Cob Blues", the lyrics are somethin' else, and it has an awesome banjo break..............either John or a Nashville session player.....anyone heard that one?



Edited by - Renofan on 01/26/2008 17:06:36

snapjackson - Posted - 01/26/2008:  17:13:07


The song Julia Belle Swain off of the Mark Twang album. It just never gets old to me.

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fivestringwomanrepeller - Posted - 01/26/2008:  20:30:54


Also, Railroad Street and Mr. Jackson's Got Nothing to Do

dawgdoc - Posted - 01/27/2008:  17:42:57


Since you're looking for more obscure tunes, let me suggest:

'Two hits and the joint turned brown'.

Doesn't get much better than my two favorite banjo pickers (Doug D and John H)

dojest - Posted - 02/05/2008:  21:23:31


First Girl I Ever Loved

Holding

I Would Not Be Here

Miss Ferris

(I confess that whatever Hartford tune I'm listening to at the time is usually my favorite - I can't say there's any I dislike!).

I got to sing See The Julia Belle Swain with him at her pilot wheel one time - one of my best memories of my life.

Tyler8 - Posted - 02/05/2008:  22:42:53


quote:
Originally posted by snapjackson

The song Julia Belle Swain off of the Mark Twang album. It just never gets old to me.



Here's a hangout trivia question for you. One of our very own hangout members is mentioned in the lyrics of "Julia Belle Swain".

Who?

Tyler

PS: Sorry for the thread hijack.

frail42 - Posted - 02/06/2008:  08:41:10


Delta Queen Waltz and Foggy Mountain Landscape.

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Tyler8 - Posted - 02/06/2008:  08:42:39


Now the Julia Belle Swain is a women's lib boat
First I ever knew
Got girls in the pilothouse and girls on deck
And a lady in the engine room
Now Donna's got her license
Cindy's learning to steer
Little Julie keeps Moon outa trouble by wandering off everywhere
By wandering off everywhere

Why it's Cindy Sinclair. http://www.banjohangout.org/my/BlondeChief

She worked on the Julia Belle for awhile but now she's a Nashville Producer and the Director of NashCamp.

Tyler

8thpol - Posted - 02/06/2008:  08:54:39


You guys have hit on the bulk of all his great stuff. I do like everything on Hamilton Iron Works for fiddle and Indian War Woop(spelling ? sorry)is just cool.

cottontop - Posted - 02/06/2008:  09:54:51


I don't think he wrote it as I believe it is an old bluegrass standard, but I love his version of "Little Cabin Home on the Hill."
cottontop

mainejohn - Posted - 02/06/2008:  22:09:01


I've been listening over and over to his Youtube version of "Lorena" and I can't get it out of my mind...so sweet and sad. Anyone know what tuning and key he uses? Sounds like F with the tuning fCGBD, but I'm just guessing. Anyone know what minor chords he uses in the second part?

Cheers,
John
Scarborough, Maine

derekanjo - Posted - 02/06/2008:  22:37:58


quote:
Originally posted by mainejohn

I've been listening over and over to his Youtube version of "Lorena" and I can't get it out of my mind...so sweet and sad. Anyone know what tuning and key he uses? Sounds like F with the tuning fCGBD, but I'm just guessing. Anyone know what minor chords he uses in the second part?

Cheers,
John
Scarborough, Maine



john usually did this tune in E, tuning eBEG#B...but i've him do it a step down in D too....the second part chords are Em - B7 (rhythmically speaking) - Em than back to first part.

Derek
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pstroud1 - Posted - 02/07/2008:  06:50:19


Old Time Riverman

Paul
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Smile a while

Ray Soulard - Posted - 02/07/2008:  07:43:44


John,
In the tab booklets that come with "The Banjo According to John Hartford" Lorena is in the key of Eb. Tuning is: Eb (Bb,Eb,G,B,Bb).

mainejohn - Posted - 02/07/2008:  08:17:11


Thanks Derek & Ray...I guess I need to buy John's DVD.

Cheers,
John
Scarborough, Maine

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